So DZ Fest 2013, the legend continues to grow. Long story short. All the recording I did during the fest got lost, except this conversation. Benj and I sat down at the end of the fest. I wanted to pick his brain a little but he didn't have much brain left. He was 98% fried. So we put this episode together in haste completely unedited. Benj did a great job. Now lets go twist and shout!